tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9571647.post115156912404836556..comments2024-02-01T02:16:29.656+03:00Comments on Devil's Mind: Defining Right And WrongDevil's Mindhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10541884626112839842noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9571647.post-1152022877336839012006-07-04T17:21:00.000+03:002006-07-04T17:21:00.000+03:00"PS: This post does NOT necessarily represent a wo..."PS: This post does NOT necessarily represent a worldwide view" - This notice has been added to clear confusion. It is worthwhile to notice that the <A HREF="http://zeidspex.blogspot.com/2004/12/point-of-view-policy.html" REL="nofollow">point of view policy</A> does NOT grantee that posts represent a worldwide viewDevil's Mindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10541884626112839842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9571647.post-1151860831453656472006-07-02T20:20:00.000+03:002006-07-02T20:20:00.000+03:00nah, i actually was happy about your comments beca...nah, i actually was happy about your comments because they allowed me to demonstrate the purpose of this entry in a clearer manner; I appreciate that my readers understand the limitations of language, and it was useful to point out that my definition applies only within the context of this blog, rather than being a universal definition!<BR/><BR/>I hope you enjoy this blog, thanks for sharing your thoughts because through arguments ideas become more interesting...Devil's Mindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10541884626112839842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9571647.post-1151856673904440162006-07-02T19:11:00.000+03:002006-07-02T19:11:00.000+03:00I believe we do understand each other, I don't hav...I believe we do understand each other, I don't have a blog and thus never experienced the observation you noted regarding the disagreements upon different definitions, but I can imagine the arguments rising from such subject.<BR/><BR/>I must say that you have a very intellectual posts here, never saw such wide variety of ideas in a single blog, hope you weren’t bothered by my comments, good luck :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9571647.post-1151848866262373032006-07-02T17:01:00.000+03:002006-07-02T17:01:00.000+03:00it's all relative, the jest here is: definition of...<I>it's all relative, the jest here is: definition of right and wrong is relative to the observer and his/her decision is based upon some rule he/she has.</I><BR/><BR/>I totally agree!! Thats why i provided my own definition to eliminate misinterpretations.... <BR/><BR/>Yes, you are right, my definition of right\wrong is closely related (although not completely synonymous) sucess of an action... <BR/><BR/>I think that it is a good practice to provide definitions of terms a person use, before actually using them because i observed that more than 90% of disagreements originate from different definitions of words used to describe something, rather than actual differences in the core of opinions!<BR/><BR/>I think we have an understanding here, or have i missed something?Devil's Mindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10541884626112839842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9571647.post-1151837770356105512006-07-02T13:56:00.000+03:002006-07-02T13:56:00.000+03:00I wasn't referring to the morality of actions or t...I wasn't referring to the morality of actions or the integrity of rules, I used the morality rules as an example, the basic idea I was trying to imply here is that any action is considered right or wrong according to the rule deployed by the group/individual concerned with that action, I might consider a certain action as right(according to a certain rule I have), other(assume male) might consider as wrong(also according to a certain rule he has), it's all relative, the jest here is: definition of right and wrong is relative to the observer and his/her decision is based upon some rule he/she has.<BR/><BR/>Serving or not serving the purpose is a definition for success and failure and your comment proved that when you said "Excuses are failures" you didn’t say "Excuses are wrong", because there is already a definition for "getting/not getting the job done" which is success and failure, as you said you are a person who believes in functionality where it only matters if the job was done or not! It means that you're only concerned with success and failure regardless or the rightness of the method!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9571647.post-1151813022934193702006-07-02T07:03:00.000+03:002006-07-02T07:03:00.000+03:00I do understand that language is a convention rath...I do understand that language is a convention rather than immutable, which means that different people may understand the same word in different ways, and its up to each individual (or sub-group of people) to define their own set of words and corresponding meanings!!<BR/><BR/>You define rightness in what some people call morality of an action!! Moral values do change from society to another! What i was trying to do, is provide a subjective definition of rightness that only takes the individual as a reference rather than the society they live within... My purpose as suggested before is to clarify what <I>I mean</I> when i say the words right\wrong to ensure that I wont be misinterpreted if i use that word in later posts!<BR/><BR/>I am a person who believes in functionality where it only matters if the job was done or not! Excuses are failures! So in your example, if the guy freaked out its his surely his fault because in the end he didnt get the job done regradless of what excuses he might give!Devil's Mindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10541884626112839842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9571647.post-1151794327181064612006-07-02T01:52:00.000+03:002006-07-02T01:52:00.000+03:00Hey I really didn’t get the idea you were trying t...Hey I really didn’t get the idea you were trying to deliver through this post, regarding the right/wrong issue, however I believe that the definition of right and wrong is purely relative, measured according to the rules set in each society, for example, it's right to sleep with your spouse and yet it's wrong to sleep with any person who isn’t!, according to the conditions(rules) set regarding your sexual partner, though in an objective perspective, both cases refer to a sexual relation with someone, but yet one is defined as right and the other as wrong according to rule deployed in that society.<BR/><BR/>Returning to the point of your post, serving the purpose is irrelevant to the definition of right and wrong, in your example about cheating, both cases were considered wrong weather they served their purposes or not, because there is a rule that says "cheating is wrong", but if personX(assume male) had studied well for his exam, in one case he would get the extra mark, and in another case personX would fail because he became confused during the exam (ya3ni la5am) and as a result got a zero mark!!, both cases were right even though one of them didn’t serve it's purpose!!<BR/>Both were right according to the rule made, and if you think about it, personX did nothing wrong!! just freaked out during the exam!! Not his fault!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com